NAB Cup Round One

Fuzzy · Guru Posts: 2848 Age: 22

Cynic wrote:

Fuzzy wrote:

LA was AFL ready last season, being a mature aged draft pick with few injury problems in the past. Robbie Tarrant has struggled to stay fit for longer then a few weeks since we drafted him, things will continued to be taken slow for him, i think a few other younger players will show their worth then Tarrant this pre-season.

So who you reckon this year? Warren Benjamin? Luke Delaney? Marcus White?

Cunnington and Bastanic. Seems a bit obvious naming our first draft picks, but both are AFL ready and will certainly get some game time in the young midfield that we have. White has been impressive as well from all reports so we may see him get some game time over the preseason games.

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Maximus · Guru Posts: 2373 Age: 19 Location: Adelaide

Just thought I'd post the new rule changes for the nab cup in here.

http://sportal.com.au/AFL-news-display/new-rules-for-nab-cup-85528

The biggest shake-up sees the four boundary umpires given the power to award free kicks for infringements off-the-ball at stoppages. That rule was trialled in a Western Bulldogs intra-club match over the weekend, with two free kicks awarded for off-the-ball infringements.

The other rule change which is likely to court contention and controversy is where a player drags the ball in under an opponent in a bid to win a holding-the-ball free kick. If a player deliberately pulls the ball in, in this manner, the free kick will go against that player for holding the ball.

A change to the advantage rule, which sees play-on called when a team has won a free kick but the play is to their advantage anyway, will also be trialled with the onus on the player, rather than the umpire, to determine if it is advantageous to play on. If a player chooses to play on and turns the ball over with a poor disposal, the ball will no longer be brought back to the position of the initial infringement.

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Fuzzy · Guru Posts: 2848 Age: 22

Great just what we need, more umpires making decisions. That second rule sounds like its going to be impossible to call.

Thank your god its only the NAB cup.

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Maximus · Guru Posts: 2373 Age: 19 Location: Adelaide

The second rule they should transfer that into the regular season definitely. I hated watching last season how players deliberately dragged the ball in and then claim that the player is holding the ball, it was a really frustrating time to watch those shocking decisions given holding the ball.

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liam_bombers · Guru Posts: 2330 Age: 15 Location: Windy Hill

Maximus wrote:

The second rule they should transfer that into the regular season definitely. I hated watching last season how players deliberately dragged the ball in and then claim that the player is holding the ball, it was a really frustrating time to watch those shocking decisions given holding the ball.

And how that happened all the time!
Nice new rule, but after that one they should leave it and stop changing rules.

They will be like american football soon - if you catch the ball and aren't in full control it isn't counted which is what gives me the shits the most.

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Crows-36 · Veteran Posts: 620 Location: Adelaide

I know there only trialing them because it's the NAB cup, but if they do turn out to be successful surely they wont go through with them in the proper season?

Why do they feel the need to keep changing the rules every year?

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Fuzzy · Guru Posts: 2848 Age: 22

No idea why it looks like they have to change rules every season.

If they improved the standard of umpiring, putting more time into training them, instead of changing rules the game would be in a better state.

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carlton10 · Legend Posts: 11333 Age: 14 Location: VICTORIA

Maximus wrote:

Just thought I'd post the new rule changes for the nab cup in here.

http://sportal.com.au/AFL-news-display/new-rules-for-nab-cup-85528

The biggest shake-up sees the four boundary umpires given the power to award free kicks for infringements off-the-ball at stoppages. That rule was trialled in a Western Bulldogs intra-club match over the weekend, with two free kicks awarded for off-the-ball infringements.

The other rule change which is likely to court contention and controversy is where a player drags the ball in under an opponent in a bid to win a holding-the-ball free kick. If a player deliberately pulls the ball in, in this manner, the free kick will go against that player for holding the ball.

A change to the advantage rule, which sees play-on called when a team has won a free kick but the play is to their advantage anyway, will also be trialled with the onus on the player, rather than the umpire, to determine if it is advantageous to play on. If a player chooses to play on and turns the ball over with a poor disposal, the ball will no longer be brought back to the position of the initial infringement.

The first rule I like, a lot of players like Mr Chris Judd and Gablett get held onto at stoppages. This should help them out a bit.

The second rule I don't see going into the AFL. If a player drags the ball under an oponent a free kick should not be awarded. But the umpires should definitely be looking out in the regular season so they don't give holding the ball when someone gets the ball dragged under them.

The 3rd rule I don't mind. I'll want to see how it goes first to have an opinion on if it should go in the Home & Away season.

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liam_bombers · Guru Posts: 2330 Age: 15 Location: Windy Hill

The whole problem with these new rules is they don't enforce them correctly!

Look at the rushed behind rule, I saw at least 6 instances last year that should have resulted in free kicks but didn't. If they enforced them properly it would be great but the umpires are too blind or stupid.

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Crows-36 · Veteran Posts: 620 Location: Adelaide

Fuzzy wrote:

No idea why it looks like they have to change rules every season.

If they improved the standard of umpiring, putting more time into training them, instead of changing rules the game would be in a better state.

Yeah I agree. I doubt there's many other sports out there (if any) who change there's rules as much as we do, it's becoming a joke now.

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liam_bombers · Guru Posts: 2330 Age: 15 Location: Windy Hill

Agreed. They really need to stop changing the rules.
I know they mean well by trying to stop playing for the free, but when you can't enforce it there is no point.

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TealDevils · Subject: Re: NAB Cup Round One Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:19 pm

Happy that the advantage rule is fixed. Everything else. Ugh. Boundary Umpires making decisions...that's gonna fal, next they'll have goal umpires...

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south01 · Guru Posts: 1406 Location: Melbourne

Crows-36 wrote:

I know there only trialing them because it's the NAB cup, but if they do turn out to be successful surely they wont go through with them in the proper season?

Why do they feel the need to keep changing the rules every year?

i dont agree with all the rule changes,don't coaches have to vote on the NAB Cup rules and that's how its decided?

The advantage rule is really ok how it is i think,there will be way too many frees with more umpires calling holding me thinks...

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neil21 · Guru Posts: 5747 Age: 19 Location: A land down under

Here are the squads for Fridays game

WEST COAST v ESSENDON
West Coast
2. Mark LeCras, 4. Daniel Kerr, 5. Brad Ebert, 6. Mark Nicoski, 7. Chris Masten, 9. Nic Naitanui, 10. Scott Selwood, 11. Matt Priddis, 12. Brad Sheppard, 13. Luke Shuey, 17. Josh Kennedy, 18. Bradd Dalziell, 21. Quinten Lynch, 23. Darren Glass, 24. Matt Rosa, 25. Shannon Hurn, 26. Sam Butler, 27. Ben McKinley, 28. Ashley Smith, 29. Ashley Hansen, 31. Will Schofield, 32. Andrew Embley, 33. Jordan Jones, 34. Tony Notte, 37. Adam Selwood, 38. Brett Jones, 40. Will Sullivan, 42. Beau Wilkes, 47. Lewis Stevenson.

Essendon
2. Ricky Dyson, 4. Jobe Watson, 6. Angus Monfries, 7. Leroy Jetta, 8. Jason Winderlich, 9. Brent Prismall, 10. Mark McVeigh, 11. David Zaharakis, 12. Andrew Welsh, 14. Sam Lonergan, 16. Tayte Pears, 17. Jake Melksham, 20. Henry Slattery, 25. Michael Still, 26. Cale Hooker, 28. Darcy Daniher, 29. Alwyn Davey, 30. Patrick Ryder, 31. Dustin Fletcher, 32. Travis Colyer, 33. Mark Williams, 34. Kyle Hardingham, 37. Kyle Reimers, 38. Jarrod Atkinson, 39. Heath Hocking, 42. Nathan Lovett-Murray, 43. Bachar Houli, 44. Tom Bellchambers, 46. Christian Bock.

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Cynic · Guru Posts: 6007 Age: 21

I'm gunning for LeCras to continue his epic form.

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liam_bombers · Guru Posts: 2330 Age: 15 Location: Windy Hill

Can't wait to see Williams in his first game out of that shit and piss coloured jumper.
I am really excited to see how Melksham, Colyer, Hardingham, Still and Bock go on their debuts. Will be great to see Essendon up and playing again. Carn the Dons!

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Cynic · Guru Posts: 6007 Age: 21

liam_bombers wrote:

Can't wait to see Williams in his first game out of that shit and piss coloured jumper.
I am really excited to see how Melksham, Colyer, Hardingham, Still and Bock go on their debuts. Will be great to see Essendon up and playing again. Carn the Dons!

You'd be hoping Bellchambers gets past his injury.

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liam_bombers · Guru Posts: 2330 Age: 15 Location: Windy Hill

Yep. He need him in the ruck if Hille or Ryder are to go to the forward line like I have heard.

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