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Megadeecee Guru

Posts: 4937 Age: 32 Location: Bungle Bungles
 | Subject: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:06 pm | |
| Taylor Is solely responsible for losing the Rabbitohs match against the Knights. Rabbits were on top till halftime but for some Reason (Sackable offence) he left both Geddes and Stuart off the field in the first 10 after Halftime in that time The Knights Got on Top of the Much Smaller Rabbits Pack who Couldn't Make yards or stop the knights roll . Needed at least one of those two out there assisting Roy and Crocker. Dumbass!!!! _________________ Life's too short to be a serious wanker[i]
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Posts: 5293 Age: 19 Location: Canberra
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Posts: 5820 Age: 22 Location: Sydney,NSW
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:56 pm | |
| Roy Asotasi is too small for the modern game to play Prop Forward, Ultimately he is outside the Top 5 Props in the NRL solely because of this, Just get's dominated over the advantage line. We need to use Asotasi as a similar role as SBW. Roy as good pace and a great offloading ability, if he stands one wider he could be very hard to stop. I'd like the pack next year to be 08. Taylor 09. Wing 10. Pettybourne 11. Asotasi 12. Crocker 13. Sutton Pettybourne has fantastic potential, He is the same height and same weight as Asotasi pretty much, But he hits the line with good pace. Something Roy doesn't do. _________________  |
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Posts: 4937 Age: 32 Location: Bungle Bungles
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:59 pm | |
| | Dragon Bomber wrote: | | who would you have replace him??? |
Anyone _________________ Life's too short to be a serious wanker[i]
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Posts: 4937 Age: 32 Location: Bungle Bungles
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:01 pm | |
| | webster wrote: | Roy Asotasi is too small for the modern game to play Prop Forward, Ultimately he is outside the Top 5 Props in the NRL solely because of this, Just get's dominated over the advantage line. We need to use Asotasi as a similar role as SBW. Roy as good pace and a great offloading ability, if he stands one wider he could be very hard to stop.
I'd like the pack next year to be
08. Taylor 09. Wing 10. Pettybourne 11. Asotasi 12. Crocker 13. Sutton
Pettybourne has fantastic potential, He is the same height and same weight as Asotasi pretty much, But he hits the line with good pace. Something Roy doesn't do. |
Add Pettybourne to the list that needed help Roy Crocker Pettybourne _________________ Life's too short to be a serious wanker[i]
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Posts: 303 Location: Witness Protection Programme
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:25 pm | |
| | webster wrote: | Roy Asotasi is too small for the modern game to play Prop Forward, Ultimately he is outside the Top 5 Props in the NRL solely because of this, Just get's dominated over the advantage line. We need to use Asotasi as a similar role as SBW. Roy as good pace and a great offloading ability, if he stands one wider he could be very hard to stop.
I'd like the pack next year to be
08. Taylor 09. Wing 10. Pettybourne 11. Asotasi 12. Crocker 13. Sutton
Pettybourne has fantastic potential, He is the same height and same weight as Asotasi pretty much, But he hits the line with good pace. Something Roy doesn't do. |
So first you say Asotasi is too small to play prop, and then you say Pettybourne should take his place in the font row. Yet, as you point out yourself, they are both the same size. Forgive me, but that sounds faintly Irish. |
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Posts: 5820 Age: 22 Location: Sydney,NSW
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:07 pm | |
| | 40/20 wrote: | | webster wrote: | Roy Asotasi is too small for the modern game to play Prop Forward, Ultimately he is outside the Top 5 Props in the NRL solely because of this, Just get's dominated over the advantage line. We need to use Asotasi as a similar role as SBW. Roy as good pace and a great offloading ability, if he stands one wider he could be very hard to stop.
I'd like the pack next year to be
08. Taylor 09. Wing 10. Pettybourne 11. Asotasi 12. Crocker 13. Sutton
Pettybourne has fantastic potential, He is the same height and same weight as Asotasi pretty much, But he hits the line with good pace. Something Roy doesn't do. |
So first you say Asotasi is too small to play prop, and then you say Pettybourne should take his place in the font row. Yet, as you point out yourself, they are both the same size. Forgive me, but that sounds faintly Irish. |
Pettybourne hits the line with pace. That's the difference. Pettybourne is more of a traditional front-rower.
Asotasi plays more like a second-rower, passes alot before he hits the line._________________  |
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Posts: 303 Location: Witness Protection Programme
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:21 pm | |
| | webster wrote: |
Pettybourne hits the line with pace. That's the difference. Pettybourne is more of a traditional front-rower.
Asotasi plays more like a second-rower, passes alot before he hits the line. |
Yet they are the same size? So how does that make Asotasi too small to play prop, as per your original statement? |
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Posts: 5820 Age: 22 Location: Sydney,NSW
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Posts: 303 Location: Witness Protection Programme
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:35 pm | |
| | webster wrote: | | 40/20 wrote: | | webster wrote: |
Pettybourne hits the line with pace. That's the difference. Pettybourne is more of a traditional front-rower.
Asotasi plays more like a second-rower, passes alot before he hits the line. |
Yet they are the same size? So how does that make Asotasi too small to play prop, as per your original statement? |
Pettybourne makes up for it, Because is way more agile. If he hits the line hard, He will be damaging. Roy is a bit soft in that regard, He is definately more of a second-rower. |
So Roy's problem isnt his size after all then? You think he's soft? |
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Posts: 2786 Age: 15 Location: Sydney
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:24 pm | |
| Pettybourne has a lot of potential and we all know that he runs the ball with a lot more speed and enthusiasm than Roy. The difference is that Roy can be more of a playmaker at times and therefore should play wider to the ruck. Pettybourne is a player of he future, but still has plenty to learn, and his ball-playing skills should come over experience. I do believe Taylor should go. He over coaches himself and although I think he is good with his training techniques, needs some time to learn under a more experienced coach as an assistant coach. Some of the on-field choices from interchanges and his team-choices are terrible. It escpaes me how he can drop Beau Champion, who I admit lacks a bit in defense, while leaving in Talanoa who has let in 10 times as many players than Champion. There are plenty of talented young blokes who would die for a spot in the team like Tyrell and Vai Vai, while having players who don't want to be there like Ben Lowe and Mcpherson. If we can't pickup Stephen Kearney, who is the best availible coach at the moment, we can put in John Lang, who has plenty of experience and is part of the coaching staff currently. _________________ Roy Asotasi, Luke Stuart, Issac Luke, Eddy Pettybourne, Dave Taylor, Ben Ross, Michael Crocker, Sam Burgess, Scott Geddes - Feeling scared?
Eddy Pettybourne - God South Sydney - #21 in 2010
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Posts: 303 Location: Witness Protection Programme
 | Subject: Re: Taylor must be sacked the sooner the better Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:13 am | |
| | ManningMan18 wrote: | Pettybourne has a lot of potential and we all know that he runs the ball with a lot more speed and enthusiasm than Roy. The difference is that Roy can be more of a playmaker at times and therefore should play wider to the ruck. Pettybourne is a player of he future, but still has plenty to learn, and his ball-playing skills should come over experience.
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I'm not sure if ball-playing skills are a necessary skillset for a prop though. I agree he hits the line harder than Asotasi at times but my question is how often? He seems the perfect impact prop at this stage of his career but to become a starter he needs to show he can maintain that intensity for long stints. I dont really bother with stats and I havent followed much of Souths this year so I dont know his actual workrate. But perhaps someone can confirm how many minutes he plays on average vs hitups/metres gained and compare that to Asotasi's numbers so far this year. I do agree that Asotasi would be handy out wider at times tho. He has some tremendous ball skills and footwork so it makes sense to take advantage of that. |
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